Friday, June 04, 2010

Racist Wars

Updated below:

The entire planet, except for Obama, was horrified by the Mediterranean Massacre where among the murdered a young American citizen was shot four times in the head and once in the chest from close range, in other words, an execution. According to the NYT Obama really, really, let Israel have it with the following stern scolding:


“What’s important right now is that we break out of the current impasse, use this tragedy as an opportunity so that we figure out how we meet Israel’s security concerns, but at the same time start opening up opportunity for Palestinians.”

Wow, that was harsh. Not only that but Obama is wrong, it’s not the job of the United States Citizens to figure out how to meet Israel’s security concerns, that’s the Israeli’s job, not ours. And Israel wouldn’t have any security problems if they treated Arabs like human beings because the root cause of Israel’s problems stem from the blatantly racist war against the Palestinians, besides stealing all of their land that is.

Time and again it has been Israel who has torpedoed peace talks though the American press always manages to blame the Palestinians. The reason is simple, the Israeli white ruling class wants all the sand niggers out of the neighborhood as in gone, vanished, deleted. If Israel agreed to peace talks they would have to give the Palestinians some kind of statehood but if they did that, then they would never be rid of the Palestinians. So, no peace talks, no capitulation, no backing down on Israel’s side.

Frankly, I think Israel will get away with it. The Europeans are outraged now but when it comes to money and trade, heartfelt ethics often evaporate and Europe trades with Israel. The United States is wrapped up in Israel from the religious ding-dongs who want Armageddon to the powerful Israeli lobby and a whole lot of re-written history not to mention a nifty arrangement with the military-industrial-complex where Congress sends Israel tax payer money and Israel uses said money to buy American weapons and Obama gets campaign contributions. Pretty nifty all the way around unless you happen to be living in Gaza.

And who is going to stop Israel? We know the U.S. won’t for the various reasons already mentioned. Russia and China? They have their own problems. As long as Israel has U.S. backing Israel is free to act as it wishes. It’s very nice that Americans are paying their taxes so Israeli troopers can shoot them four times in the head and once in the chest, it’s very generous of us.

The war against the Palestinians is a racist war just as is America’s war on terror.


According to Juan Cole the Israeli hadn’t intended to perpetrate a bloodbath:


Paul McGeough, one of our great war reporters and investigative journalists, has constructed one of the first rounded accounts of the boarding of the Mavi Marmara by Israeli commandos and the way it turned into a game of shooting fish in a barrel. McGeough was on one of the other ships and could see some of the events by moonlight. He then conducted interviews with the aid workers while they were imprisoned in Israel and on the plane to Istanbul. He reveals that an initial attempt to board the Mavi Marmara from an Israeli vessel failed. Then an initial attempt to land commandos on the deck also failed, when the commandos were captured, and some beaten until the captain and others intervened to stop it. Their weapons were confiscated and thrown overboard. At that point live fire was deployed, apparently both by helicopter gunship onto the top deck and by rappelling commandos. Unarmed people were shot between the eyes, shot in the top of the head, shot in the back of the head, shot in the chest, shot in the back, and shot in the legs. Other accounts say the wounded were piled up in a room by the commandos without any first aid and many left to bleed out. Then all the passengers were kidnapped and sequestered and silenced, and the Israelis confiscated and cherry-picked all the video and photos to show one moment of resistance to the first landing and erase all the subsequent murders by Israelis of unarmed passengers.

Fully six of the aid workers killed on the deck were shot by a single out-of-control commando, who is in line for a medal for bravery from Israel. Although he claims that Israeli commandos had already been shot by passengers, the aid workers deny this and since he’d be up on murder charges if he fired on unarmed people, he has a reason to paint the situation as already dire when he began his shooting rampage.


At June 05, 2010 3:55 PM, Blogger Jonathan Versen said...

Like I think I've said before, I don't necessarily think regular people believe what the media tells them they believe.

At June 05, 2010 7:22 PM, Blogger rob payne said...

I don't agree, I think most regular people believe just about everything the media tells them so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

At June 05, 2010 8:52 PM, Blogger Jonathan Versen said...

For what little it's worth, I hope you are wrong, or at least that larger numbers of people are beginning to have doubts and looking beyond traditional media. But why is it necessary to tell me to put it in my pipe and smoke it?

At June 05, 2010 9:55 PM, Blogger rob payne said...

Why? Because "I'm right and you are wrong" arguments are driving me nuts. I'm sick of reading comments where people are rude for no reason. I mean how about: "Dave, I don't agree with you and here is why." That's a lot better than "hey dumbfuck that's the stupidist shit I've read. Now here is the correct view, etc.

At June 05, 2010 10:56 PM, Blogger Jonathan Versen said...

Wow. I didn't think I said "I'm right and you're wrong." I didn't think I was being rude, it wasn't my intention. I did say I don't necessarily think, etc. I was offering a tentative observation, not a definitive one.

I suppose I should have added that, at least thus far, there has been a dearth of polling data that's readily available regarding the attacks on the flotilla.

Rightly or not I am wondering if this means the pollsters don't like the numbers they're getting. Do I know this? No, of course I don't. It may just mean the polls aren't being done because they don't care what we think.

Admittedly the longer term polling data(link) mostly affirms your view.

At June 06, 2010 9:50 AM, Blogger Bob In Pacifica said...

Jonathan, I don't think you were being rude. But I tend to side with Rob regarding propaganda.

How people form their opinions is a huge and subtle thing. Does a joke about Bill Clinton on "How I Met Your Mom" help to solidify some opinion that the Koch noise machine was beating out fifteen years ago? If you see some hack reporter shade a report on your Fox affiliate at seven a.m. do you absorb that as common wisdom? If Keith O. and Rachel M. set up the outposts of outrage, do you feel free to consider a position beyond that? Thomas Friedman gets to crank out books every year or so, staking out the boundaries of debates, past which rational readers of the NYTimes and WaPo should never go.

Writers and posters here are shrewder than most, but it's hard to deny that in some way we all aren't affected by what the media tells us.

At June 06, 2010 11:18 AM, Blogger rob payne said...

My apologies, my fuse was already lit when I read your comment. There is nothing wrong with what you said though I still don’t quite agree with you. I really had someone else in mind regarding rudeness and I’m sorry if I took it out on you, I was just angry at the moment and it certainly wasn’t fair of me.

I agree with you about how we are all affected to some degree by the news media. It’s part of that all-encompassing power of culture which is rarely noticed.


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