Robert Springborg, Foreign Policy
"Game over: The chance for democracy in Egypt is lost
" Feb 2nd
Gareth Porter, "The Illusive Quest for Dominance: Why Washington Clings to a Failed Middle East Strategy
Juan Cole, "Saad’s Revolution
‘ Saad Eddin Ibrahim has spoken out forcefully on human rights and democracy for decades, and he is finally being vindicated. But his message that the United States needs to support democracy in the Arab world and put aside its paranoia about Muslim fundamentalist movements may be unpalatable to Washington’s elites. ‘
Firedoglake,“No One Could Have Predicted the
Housing Bubble Middle East Status Quo Would Crash
” [via Corrente
Ahdaf Soueif: The regime unleashes its thugs
Washingtonblog, "Why Did Mubarak's Thugs Ride In On Camels?
Gary Farber, "De Nile Truly Is A River
Steve Lendman, "Revolutionary Change in Egypt: Internal or Made in USA?
Parvez Sharma, 'We are very much in the early stages of our revolution’
Helena Cobban, "Obama's know-nothings discuss Egypt
Chris Floyd had several interesting posts up about recent events in Egypt but apparently hackers have removed them
I've seen very little in the way of polling regarding the turmoil in Egypt. From the somewhat right-wing Rasmussen people there's this
Juan Cole mentions another poll, here: "Why Egypt 2011 is not Iran 1979
A recent Pew poll found that 59% of Egyptians favor democracy in almost all situations. And fully 60 percent are very or somewhat worried about the specter of religious extremism in their society. About 61% do not even think there is a struggle between modernizers and religion in Egypt.
Among the 31% who did see such a struggle, 59% favored religious forces and 21% favored the modernizers. Barry Rubin and Michael Totten misread this latter statistic to be true of all Egyptians. They are wrong. The statistic is not about Egyptians in general, but about the third of them who see a conflict between modernizers and religion. 59% of 31% is 18% of the whole Egyptian population who favor fundamentalists over modernizers. The rest either favor the modernizers or think it is a phony conflict. Not thinking that modernism and religiosity conflict is generally a liberal point of view.
Vermont's Bernie Sanders has an interactive poll on his Senate web site, here
. Last I checked about 2,700 people had participated. I know it's not remotely scientific, but I found it interesting.
Regarding Gary Farber and Marc Lynch
(whom Farber quotes extensively
), I'm inclined to think they both make too many excuses for Obama-- although I doubt that if Obama actually took a more forthright stand in favor of a meaningful change to democratic government it would make much difference in terms of actual events. My sense of Obama is that he just cares about avoiding having people and events making him look bad, and at this point the US government's main rhetorical struggle is the attempt to seem relevant
to events in the Middle East. I wonder if many Americans can see how our influence in the region has declined, and it's not about dems versus the GOP, any more than Iraq was about WMDs. At any rate I hope Robert Springborg is wrong and the street revolutionaries really have a chance to get rid of the government and replace it with something better. History suggests the odds against them are steep, not because Arabs "don't understand" democracy, but because outside forces tend to interfere if they can.
Labels: authoritarianism, Egypt, middle east, US foreign policy